“REINER FUELLMICH ANSWERS THE ALLEGATIONS OF FRAUD AGAINST HIM BY COLLEAGUE VIVIANE FISCHER” Gemma O'Doherty Sept29,2022
A TRANSCRIPT AND ANALYSIS THAT HAS ME REACHING FOR MY OPENER TO THIS CAN OF WORMS.
“REINER FUELLMICH ANSWERS THE ALLEGATIONS OF FRAUD AGAINST HIM BY COLLEAGUE VIVIANE FISCHER” Gemma O’Doherty Sept29,2022
https://www.bitchute.com/video/HffBHCVXZ8sR/
I have listened carefully to, and analyzed and transcribed, parts of the conversation between Gemma O’Doherty and Reiner Fuellmich which Gemma undertook to give Reiner a “Forum” (her own words, see transcript below) on the current Corona Investigative Committee Imbroglio, that I think has, unfortunately, become a Pandora’s Box or, pun intended, a Can of (as in the German city) Worms that very much needs to be opened.
I am left rather shocked at what I have discovered concerning the allegation of “embezzled donations” made by Viviane Fischer and counter, so it seems, allegations Reiner makes against her, see below.
My tentative judgment is that Reiner (I am leaving Viviane out of this, not that I think she is innocent, but just for the purpose of focusing on Reiner), needs to “COME CLEAN” and be ‘FULLY TRANSPARENT” about the “€700,000” he “borrowed” to, apparently, pay off his German house mortgage; again, apparently, done to save these donation funds from being lost to the German government if they would have remained as cash in some German bank???
If you read carefully below and think clearly, I believe most of you will agree with my challenge to Reiner to take the responsibility to publicly open this Can of Worms. I am giving him the benefit of the many doubts I now have as I have considered him an honorable and courageous person.
CODE TO THE DIFFERENTIATIONS IN THE TEXT TYPES BELOW:
1. Gemma’s words specially emphasized by bold italics and VERY SPECIAL CAPS.
2. Reiner’s words specially emphasized by bold and VERY SPECIAL CAPS.
3. [MY COMMENTS IN BRACKETS, BOLD AND CAPS].
7:31 Gemma “But the allegation again, against you, by Viviane who is also a lawyer is that you embezzled from the, over €700,000, now your argument is, Reiner, and I know that you have utterlly disputed that and have made a very clear statement about this, but…so, your, did the…YOU BOTH HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THE LIQUIDITY OF THE ASSETS THAT YOU HELD IN CASH, THE DONATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC, SO THERE WERE CONCERNS THERE, AND YOU THOUGHT IT WAS WISE—AND I WOULD AGREE WITH—
[MINIMAL DISRESPECT INTENDED, BUT GEMMA’S DEGREE IN ECONOMICS MUST HAVE COME FROM THE USUAL KEYNESIAN PROCESSED NONSENSE FACTORY OF ANIMAL SPIRITS? Yes, I am an Austrian school of economics person.]
TO MAYBE PUT THOSE LIQUID ASSETS INTO SOMETHING MORE SECURE, AM I RIGHT IN SAYING THAT YOU PUT THAT €700,000 THAT SHE’S TALKING ABOUT INTO A PROPERTY THAT YOU OWN?
[NOTICE HERE IS A KEY ASPECT OF THIS IMBROGLIO: THIS “SECURING THE LIQUID ASSETS”, THAT IS, THE CASH DONATIONS. WHICH IS VERY STRANGE, AS IN FACT, ECONOMICALLY, NOTHING IS MORE “LIQUID” THAN CASH.]
“Cash is, by default, the most liquid asset since it doesn’t need to be sold or converted (it’s already cash!).” https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/knowledge/finance/liquidity/
[SO TO ATTEMPT TO JUSTIFY MOVING €700,000 OF DONATION CASH (presumably cash in some bank) INTO “A PROPERTY” (you will read more about this below that should even more raise your eyebrows if not your intuitive red flag warning that something is not right here) TO SUPPOSEDLY “SECURE LIQUID ASSETS” DOES NOT MAKE FINANCIAL SENSE.]
8:22 Reiner “YES, THAT’S CORRECT. Plus some of the liquidity was put into gold, which turns out to be a good investment… but it was always available, my house was worth much much more, I’M IN THE PROCESS OF SELLING IT RIGHT NOW
[MY EMPHASIS, SEE BELOW 13:53]
but…[INTERRUPTED BY GEMMA]”
8:48 Gemma “Sorry, when you say that you put it in, did you, I have to ask you this as a journalist, it’s public money, did you…IS THE HOUSE FULLY PAID FOR OR DO YOU STILL HAVE A MORTGAGE ON THAT?”
9:01 Reiner “YES…NO, IT’S”. [NOTICE THIS IS LEFT UNCLEAR, AMBIGUOUS]
Gemma “You do still, so that…” [NOTICE GEMMA INTERPRETS REINER’S ANSWER TO BE HE STILL HAS A MORTGAGE TO BE PAID]
Reiner “Yea, these are false allegations, she knew these were false and she made them anyway. And I would’ve been able at any point in time, had we ever run into liquidity problems, to take a mortgage, get a loan which would’ve been secured for a mortgage in that amount, no problem whatsoever.
[WHY WOULD HE RUN INTO LIQUIDITY PROBLEMS CONCERNING THE DONATION CASH MONEY??? SEE ABOVE QUOTE ON CASH LIQUIDITY.]
“And there’s never, ever been any doubt about the fact that this money, BECAUSE "THERE IS A LOAN CONTRACT WITH THE CORONA INVESTIGATIVE COMMITTEE
[WHAT IS THIS ABOUT? A LOAN TO HIMSELF TO PAY HIS MORTGAGE???]
“THIS MONEY IS PART OF THE ASSETS OF THE CORONA INVESTIGATIVE COMMITTEE, NOT MY MONEY.
[SO REINER ADMITS IT IS NOT HIS MONEY, SO THEREFORE HAD TO “BORROW” IT, TO…PAY OFF HIS MORTGAGE???]
“And the same is true of the gold, she knew where it was, she was the one tried to get to it because she and her boyfriend…are in serious financial problems, that’s why she wanted to get to it.”
Gemma “Ok, but she he’s not here to defend herself, I am giving you a FORUM, John Waters and myself attended your committee…[irrelevant words here] just getting back to the property, is that property in America or in Germany?
10:15 Reiner “This property is in Germany. I do have another piece of property in the United States… THERE’S NO MORTGAGES ON THAT ONE EITHER,
[MY CAPS EMPHASIS -- THIS CLEARLY CONTRADICTS REINER’S EARLIER STATEMENT, RECALL, THIS WAS LEFT AMBIGUOUS, BUT GEMMA INTERPRETED REINER MEANING THERE WAS A MORTGAGE OUTSTANDING???]
so there is no problem for me to” [INTERRUPTED BY GEMMA]
10:30 Gemma “So, so, just explain if there is no mortgage on either, you fully own both of those properties”
10:37 Reiner “YEA” [MY SPECIAL EMPHASIS. SO THIS MEANS REINER HAS PAID OFF THE GERMAN AND THE U.S. MORTGAGES COMPLETELY. RECALL EARLIER REINER WAS AMBIGUOUS ABOUT THIS.]
Gemma “SO WHERE IS THAT MONEY JUST SO PEOPLE ARE CLEAR, WHERE IS THE 700,000 IF THERE’S NO DEBT?”
10:47 Reiner “PART OF THE MONEY WENT INTO REPAYING A BANK LOAN
[SO THIS IS THE €700,000 HE BORROWED TO PAY OFF HIS GERMAN MORTGAGE, BUT ONLY A “PART” OF IT WAS “BORROWED” TO SPEND ON HIS MORTGAGE AND THE REST WAS SPENT ON???]
“BECAUSE IT WAS OBVIOUS THAT THE BANKS WOULD NOT GIVE ME A CONTINUATION OF THAT LOAN and that’s why these, THIS PROPERTY IS DEBT FREE
[WHY IS IT OBVIOUS GERMAN BANKS WOULD NOT GIVE HIM A CONTINUATION OF HIS LOAN (I assume he means his mortgage loan?) AND SO THEN HE USED €700,000 (or some part of this?) OF DONATION MONEY TO PAY OFF THIS MORTGAGE BECAUSE THE BANK WOULD NOT CONTINUE IT, OR…???]
“and I could’ve gotten another mortgage anytime I wanted to.
[WHY WOULD HE WANT ANOTHER MORTGAGE???]
“Right now I am… I’M NOT SELLING IT BECAUSE I AM SORT OF RUNNING AWAY BUT I’M SELLING IT BECAUSE
[HE IS SELLING HIS GERMAN PROPERTY NOW AND IT SEEMS HE USED THE 700,000 TO PAY OFF THE MORTGAGE SO HE COULD SELL HIS HOUSE WHICH HE THEN WOULD USE THE SALE PROCEEDS TO PAY BACK THE LOAN HE MADE HIMSELF FROM THE CORONAVIRUS INVESTIGATIVE COMMITTEE WHICH IS ONLY HIM AND VIVIANE??????? AIEEE, WHAT A CAN OF WORMS!?]
“first of all, if Suchard Bhati’s predictions turn out to be true, pretty soon there’s not going to be very many buyers anymore, there’s going to be a buyer’s market, second, interest rates have been rising for quite a while now, and thirdly, there is a very high possibility, VERY HIGH LIKELIHOOD THAT HERE IN GERMANY, THE GOVERNMENT WILL IMPOSE FORCED LIENS SO TO SPEAK ON ALL OF THE REAL ESTATE TO PAY [laughs], to pay for the vaccine damage that doesn’t exist.”
[IT SEEMS THIS EXPLANATION IS TRYING TO JUSTIFY TAKING THE 700,000 TO PAY OFF HIS MORTGAGE. RECALL THE REASON HE GAVE EARLIER FOR BORROWING THE 700,000 (or some amount of this) INTO PAYING HIS MORTGAGE. HE DID THIS FOR “LIQUIDITY” REASONS, THAT IS, HE WAS AFRAID THE GERMAN GOVERNMENT WOULD TAKE THE 700,000 FROM WHATEVER BANK IT WAS IN? OR HE THOUGHT THE GOVERNMENT WOULD TAKE HIS HOUSE THAT HE STILL OWED MORTGAGE MONEY ON??? THEREFORE REINER USES THE REASONS ABOVE TO JUSTIFY TAKING THE PUBLIC DONATIONS OF 700,000 TO PAY OFF HIS PERSONAL MORTGAGE ON HIS GERMAN HOUSE. DOES THIS SEEM MORALLY RIGHT AND TRANSPARENT? JUST NOTE HOW CONFUSED AND AMBIGUOUS ALL OF THIS IS WITH GEMMA’S LESS THAN TRENCHANT QUESTIONING AND REINER’S AMBIGUOUS ANSWERING???!!!]
11:54 Gemma “Ok, so just so I am clear about it, there was a mortgage outstanding on the German property of how much?
12:04 Reiner [HE LOOKS UP AS IF TRYING TO RECALL] “I THINK IT WAS 600 OR SO, 600 OR 700”
Gemma “Ok, so, you, you…” [THEY BOTH TALK OVER EACH OTHER]
Reiner “PRETTY MUCH THAT AMOUNT, PRETTY MUCH THAT AMOUNT”
[I THINK THIS IS NOT SHOWING INTEGRITY TO BE SO LOOSE ABOUT HOW MUCH HE ACTUALLY BORROWED.]
12:13 Gemma “AND DID YOU DISCUSS THIS WITH VIVIANE BEFOREHAND AND THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE THAT YOU WERE GOING TO DO THIS?”
[A CRUCIAL QUESTION—NOTE THAT REINER DOES NOT FULLY ANSWER IT. HE DOES NOT SAY HE TOLD VIVIANE THAT HE WAS “BORROWING” THE €700,000 TO PAY OFF HIS MORTGAGE SO HE COULD, OSTENSIBLY???, HIDE THE MONEY FROM THE GERMAN GOVERNMENT IN HIS HOUSE AS IT WOULD BE SAFER THERE THAN IN SOME BANK????]
Reiner “There’s only one member of the committee, and that’s Viviane, and the other is me. The original two members, the other two members who were part of the committee originally, they left a long time ago because we had what we would call irreconcilable differences. Well, both of us knew because SHE TOOK ANOTHER 100,000 ALSO BASED ON A LOAN CONTRACT
[NOW VIVIANE HAS “BORROWED” OR “SECURITIZED” “ANOTHER” (this is not her first borrowing???) 100,000 ALONG WITH THE 700,000 REINER “BORROWED” OR “SECURITIZED”???]
“SO THAT IT WAS OBVIOUS THAT IT’S NOT HER MONEY, SHE’S GOING TO HAVE TO REPAY IT TO THE COMMITTEE,
[AND REINER WILL HAVE TO REPAY HIS 700,000 AS WELL???]
“AND I TOOK THOSE 700 BECAUSE I HAVE SECURITY, I HAVE COLLATERAL, AND SHE DOESN’T.”
[REINER HAS THE COLLATERAL “SECURITY” OF HIS GERMAN? HOME THAT HE PAID OFF THE MORTGAGE OWING USING THE 700,000???? BUT VIVIANE’S 100,000 HAS NO COLLATERAL??? WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT SHE SPENT HER 1ST OR 2ND??? 100,000 ON???]
12:57 Gemma “AND THE COLLATERAL BEING YOUR PROPERTY IN AMERICA?”
Reiner “EXACTLY, NO [INAUDIBLE]”. [NOTICE THE AMBIGUITY HERE AGAIN AS EARLIER]
Gemma “Ok, we are obliged to…so have you another property in Germany, or the property in Germany what would be the current value of that?
[NOTICE GEMMA ASKS ABOUT A SECOND PROPERTY IN GERMANY WHICH REINER DOES NOT RESPOND TO, SO IT SEEMS THERE IS ONLY ONE PROPERTY IN GERMANY????]
Reiner “Close to 1.4 million”
Gemma “So…of course we know we’re on the brink of a major property crash, it’s imminent, so obviously…” [REINER BREAKS IN]
13:29 Reiner “HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT GEMMA, HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT?” [REINER SMILING ACCUSATORILY, INTERROGATINGLY]
Gemma “Well I suppose all the signs are there, we’ve seen one of the most stable currencies in the world plummet, in recent days sterling, you know one of the most valuable currencies, so all of the indications are there and the people that you’ve been exposing everyday seems to have that in mind, I would imagine, would you not agree?”
13:53 Reiner “EXACTLY, EXACTLY. I ABSOLUTELY AGREE
[NOTICE NOW REINER HAS COMPLETELY GONE THE OTHER WAY NOW TO THE JUST BEFORE 13:29 ACCUSATORIAL, DEFENSIVE STANCE—WHY???]
“and that’s why I’m selling, exactly why I am selling, I didn’t realize that this was common knowledge in the meantime, but that’s why I’m selling, the loan contract…er, I’m sorry, the sales contract will be signed on Monday, so it’s all on its way, there’s nothing to worry about except for some other things that we can’t discuss here right now.”
14:20 Gemma “And so THAT MONEY THAT BELONGS TO THE PUBLIC AND YOUR DONORS, obviously you’ve done an awful lot of work.
[GEMMA REPEATS THAT THE MONEY IS FROM DONORS AND “BELONGS TO THE PUBLIC” BUT DOES NOT QUESTION REINER ON THE SALE OF HIS HOUSE THAT HE “BORROWED” €700,000 OF DONATION MONEY FROM THE COMMITTEE TO PAY OFF THE MORTGAGE WITH…WHY NOT????]
“I’ve discovered in this country that no lawyer, there is no lawyer that will work without being paid. There does seem to be others that are willing to, but it seems something within the legal profession, that is very disappointing, that’s so few lawyers have come forward because it is lawyers and Doctors that we need…but, ummm…
[GEMMA IS STRUGGLING WITH HERSELF IT SEEMS TO BE CAREFUL TO ASK THE RIGHT QUESTION THE RIGHT WAY]
“SO THAT MONEY WHEN YOU RETRIEVE IT, WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO IT?”
[RETRIEVE AS IN WHEN REINER SELLS HIS HOME AND REPAYS THE €700,000 TO THE COMMITTEE WHICH IS NOW ONLY HIMSELF AND VIVIANE AND WHICH REINER IS LEAVING, PRESUMABLY TAKING THE €700,000 (or some part?) WITH HIM TO HIS NEW “INTERNATIONAL CRIMES INVESTIGATIVE COMMITTEE”???]
Reiner “PART OF IT IS OWNED BY THE CORONA INVESTIGATIVE COMMITTEE, WHICH IS MYSELF AND HER. SO IT WILL BE SPENT ON WHAT THE CORONA INVESTIGATIVE COMMITTEE, BUT ALSO ON WHAT MY VERSION OF THE CORONA INVESTIGATIVE COMMITTEE WHICH WILL BE CALLED INTERNATIONAL CRIMES INVESTIGATIVE COMMITTEE IS DOING, because that’s what its purpose is. It will not be spent on [REINER’S FAKE, ACCUSATORY LAUGH]
“Ferraris and anything, it will not be spent on vaccines… you may have heard about 35 billion euros that have been spent by [some German politician?] on vaccines, it will be spent on uncovering what they’ve done.”
15:42 Gemma “And Ok, how did I…I don’t want to go to far, too much longer on the relationship between you and Viviane, but how did you originally meet each other?”
[NOTICE THAT GEMMA IS NOT REALLY ASKING THE CRUCIAL, HARD QUESTIONS HERE ABOUT THIS SECURING LIQUIDITY, THE LOAN, THE PAYOFF OF HIS MORTGAGE AND SALE OF HIS HOUSE. I THINK MOST OF US THAT HAVE FOLLOWED THIS CONVERSATION AS I HAVE DONE TO HERE WOULD HAVE ASKED THOSE QUESTIONS???]
25:39 Gemma “I was wondering one of the reasons for the falling out was you were willing to go further down the rabbit hole and call out more of the so-called conspiracy theories for being actual truths. Some people have been saying that that you did want to venture into certain places that you just can’t go to at all, and maybe if you were to go to some of these places you yourself as a German could end up in jail. I don’t know whether any of that is true but you seem to have an open mind on a lot of it.
26:16 Reiner “None of this is true, the reason for the falling out is completely different. No reason, and I’m not going to go into any details, has something to do with, uumm let’s put it this way, ummm, [REINER EXHALES A SIGH] psychological problems.”
I can only hope Reiner will come out and clear this all up. To admit you were wrong and compromised on your morality and to ask for pardon—this takes great strength and shows great integrity.
"Every act of conscious learning requires the willingness to suffer an injury to one's self-esteem. That is why young children, before they are aware of their own self-importance, learn so easily; and why older persons, especially if vain or important, cannot learn at all.". Thomas Szasz.
Two thumbs up on this post/your discernment and sound analysis. Its the same thoughts that went thru my mind as well, when I tuned into his first attempt at rebuttle (the vid posted on Bright Light News where he speaks in German and we had to make do with a horsey auto-translate to english, but could still get the gist of what was said). yup... In that interview he did the same shucking n jiving modus operandi of diverting and not just giving straight forward, matter of fact answers / explanations Word Salad, in addition to defaulting to unnecessary déclassé nasty disparaging ad hominem comments about Fischer (he dogged her hair, clothing, vocations, her boyfriend and personal life motifs, her character etc.,) that had zero merit of constructiveness. It's definitely a whole ball o' wax, as you noted, and in the end, the whole thing could end up being WEIRDER than we ever imagined, regarding the whole Corona Committee kit n kaboodle. Appreciate this post, and appreciate you; that you didnt gloss over the glaring red flags, and sensically, methodically vetted what was presented. The majority of people have lost that sound necessary modus operandi.
I like Reiner very much and trust him 100% if anyone can help us it’s him & he has my full support!